ruralaustralia may not know about or comment about Argentina but I do and I can … I know from my friends there that they own their land and their cattle, they are not merely “producers” producing for a statutory industry operated by the Federal Government; they are owners.

Are you happy to just be a producer and not own anything?

You said – “While we need to chip away and gain support for the issues you raise as they underpin our livelihood, I think we need to do something about the issues affecting our daily income – Unfair low prices and high costs.”

These two issues cannot be separated because they are not exclusive of one another. Fixing the problem of issues that are affecting our daily income can only be achieved by fixing the issues that underpin our livelihoods firstly, and to that extent, should commence with changes to the language and definitions in legislative and non-legislative (regulation) instruments that are loosely called laws these days. For example, equity, property and owner have been removed from today’s instruments and replaced with terms like stakeholder, landholder, steward, land manager, premises (property without an identifiable owner) and industry (excludes individual businesses).

Under these new terms with corresponding definitions the ruling elite and assorted industry officials (experts) of whatever persuasion and ideology can and do by regulation remove your right of ownership therefore control (regulatory burden) to a fair days pay, for a fair days work, derived from your property, of which you are the owner at law and equity.

Given that many of our very own supposed representatives are prescribed as industry officials by Government the question begs; how can unity be achieved when the industry structure is deliberately designed to create disunity ???

As for MLA; surely you do not support a group of Civil servants on Commonwealth salaries ordering you about, do you?

Don’t you understand that with regard to the Livestock industry it is nationalised, there is a statutory meaning for “industry” and “producer” and it does not include any notion of ownership?

How do you propose we acquire our rights back using a “chip away and gain support” policy?

We should not have to “chip away” to “gain support” for our fundamental rights they should be our Constitutional right; I have 4 uncles in war cemeteries around the world that fought for my freedom by unfortunately they died in vain, there lives were waisted because we have no freedom.

Livestock owners certainly are a minority group and becoming marginalised by the day, but that is what one has come to accept in the system that you call and is called a democracy. The reality is that it is a False Democracy; that is taught to us in political science; it is a parliamentary supremacy system where all property both real and personal is held of the State, for the so called “benefit of the community”, it’s communal, it’s a collective.
In a true democracy the minority groups have the protection of the Constitution, it holds their rights; Australia does not. Most State Courts cannot now sit as Courts of Common Law, the Common Law has been repealed; they can only sit as Civil Courts and interpret the law of the politicians; that’s where your rights went.

With this relatively new governing arrangement with its emphasis on socialism which seems to have its origins in the Australia Acts, passed in 1984, I wonder just how it will effect the economics of ownership of land and livestock, income, profit … etc because investment and production will start to decline dramatically because there is no security, no real ownership, just Stewardship; Equity is going to be a big issue for Agriculture under this Communal system.

Just who is going to stand the financial losses associated with the transition from the old system of private ownership to communal ownership? The land clearing issue is one, there being no clear title to land anymore; the MLA issue is another where the Commonwealth acquired a prescribed legal interest in all the domestic livestock in Australia; we now have the MLA as a tenant in common; without paying for it.

I see these as extreme problems, and I see them as having the potential to severely disrupt or destroy food production in this country.

What do think?

End result, for starters – Veg laws and the proposed ETS. What does all environment law have in common? (A) – Laws made to the ‘External Affairs’ provision or in other words, conventions and treaties brought into Australia and enacted into law without regard of Australia’s own entrenched sovereign laws or the sovereign people governed. But never mind the ‘Voters’ just love em’ !!!

I suppose it is possible for a person to get sick if they tried to eat a live animal but, probably more likely to get exhausted first trying to catch the animal, however, not to despair the person can simply scan (if they get close enough) the NLIS tag in the animal and catch it later.

The perception of the brains trust logic in convincing the consumer that they are buying meat directly from a farmer firstly and, that a RFID tag fitted to the animal will stop contamination, such as E-coli, of the product they eat just escapes me for the minute. How does one scan a white elephant ?