Do you have a ‘pet’ issue at the moment or are there a couple that have you running mad or very frustrated?
How would you rate the possible options I can see for the general Australian producer ?(You can have more than one choice).
It would be interesting to see whether people see these as real issues. And can you provide real solutions for your ‘pets’? Given Australia’s producers are certainly a minority group, I think we are going to have to use some creative thinking to work with the rest of the Community. Otherwise, their sheer numbers will outvote us in a democracy! Or perhaps you think some of these are just ‘beat-ups’ by journo’s needing stories that will work themselves out like most things eventually.
How do you see it? Perhaps you think there should be some others e.g. Free university education…etc
What do you think?
Please leave your comment below.
RW said
Rural Australia – Can I start at the edges or in the guts as the case may be? (1) – Parliamentary Supremacy (regulation) = Democracy (Oz style), however and in my view, democracy (any democracy) without ‘Freedom’ (removed by regulation) is only ‘Tyranny’ by another name. (2) – Preferential Voting in which the effects of, can, and have created poor ‘Public Policy’ and draconian regulation for the price of a ‘Vote’.
End result, for starters – Veg laws and the proposed ETS. What does all environment law have in common? (A) – Laws made to the ‘External Affairs’ provision or in other words, conventions and treaties brought into Australia and enacted into law without regard of Australia’s own entrenched sovereign laws or the sovereign people governed. But never mind the ‘Voters’ just love em’ !!!
The Serf said
Rural Australia; You’ve touched on a subject that is a growing perception in Australia and that is a distinct lack of Property ownership.
Livestock owners certainly are a minority group and becoming marginalised by the day, but that is what one has come to accept in the system that you call and is called a democracy. The reality is that it is a False Democracy; that is taught to us in political science; it is a parliamentary supremacy system where all property both real and personal is held of the State, for the so called “benefit of the community”, it’s communal, it’s a collective.
In a true democracy the minority groups have the protection of the Constitution, it holds their rights; Australia does not. Most State Courts cannot now sit as Courts of Common Law, the Common Law has been repealed; they can only sit as Civil Courts and interpret the law of the politicians; that’s where your rights went.
With this relatively new governing arrangement with its emphasis on socialism which seems to have its origins in the Australia Acts, passed in 1984, I wonder just how it will effect the economics of ownership of land and livestock, income, profit … etc because investment and production will start to decline dramatically because there is no security, no real ownership, just Stewardship; Equity is going to be a big issue for Agriculture under this Communal system.
Just who is going to stand the financial losses associated with the transition from the old system of private ownership to communal ownership? The land clearing issue is one, there being no clear title to land anymore; the MLA issue is another where the Commonwealth acquired a prescribed legal interest in all the domestic livestock in Australia; we now have the MLA as a tenant in common; without paying for it.
I see these as extreme problems, and I see them as having the potential to severely disrupt or destroy food production in this country.
What do think?
Roustabout said
Serf,
You describe an interesting situation. The challenge I see is that we need to work-out how to solve it. The World already has a food shortage and we should be able to assist and consequently gain from this. While we need to chip away and gain support for the issues you raise as they underpin our livelihood, I think we need to do something about the issues affecting our daily income – Unfair low prices and high costs. These are caused by the culmination of
- lack of pricing knowledge across the marketplace (i.e. how do we ever know if we are getting a fair price?),
- freight,
- agents commissions,
- ‘yards dues.
- MLA & per-head Tax type costs
However, we need to find creative ways of dealing with these factors as (perhaps from MLA taxes) they aren’t easily solved!
Bring in Bill Kelty to help perhaps(?) – “United we stand. Divided we fall!”
RW said
Roustabout –
You said – “While we need to chip away and gain support for the issues you raise as they underpin our livelihood, I think we need to do something about the issues affecting our daily income – Unfair low prices and high costs.”
These two issues cannot be separated because they are not exclusive of one another. Fixing the problem of issues that are affecting our daily income can only be achieved by fixing the issues that underpin our livelihoods firstly, and to that extent, should commence with changes to the language and definitions in legislative and non-legislative (regulation) instruments that are loosely called laws these days. For example, equity, property and owner have been removed from today’s instruments and replaced with terms like stakeholder, landholder, steward, land manager, premises (property without an identifiable owner) and industry (excludes individual businesses).
Under these new terms with corresponding definitions the ruling elite and assorted industry officials (experts) of whatever persuasion and ideology can and do by regulation remove your right of ownership therefore control (regulatory burden) to a fair days pay, for a fair days work, derived from your property, of which you are the owner at law and equity.
Given that many of our very own supposed representatives are prescribed as industry officials by Government the question begs; how can unity be achieved when the industry structure is deliberately designed to create disunity ???
The Serf said
Roustabout
You seem not to understand the point of my comment; how can you ask for the points you make or attempt to solve them when you do not own the property in the first place? The community now owns them, or more correctly the State.
As for MLA; surely you do not support a group of Civil servants on Commonwealth salaries ordering you about, do you?
Don’t you understand that with regard to the Livestock industry it is nationalised, there is a statutory meaning for “industry” and “producer” and it does not include any notion of ownership?
How do you propose we acquire our rights back using a “chip away and gain support” policy?
We should not have to “chip away” to “gain support” for our fundamental rights they should be our Constitutional right; I have 4 uncles in war cemeteries around the world that fought for my freedom by unfortunately they died in vain, there lives were waisted because we have no freedom.
John Michelmore said
Australian’s are in for the biggest shock ever.
External treaties agreed to by the Commonwealth Government; over rule our Constitution and cannot be challenged in an Australian Court. One prominent example is the Tasmanian Dam case.
Australians just don’t realise that Native Veg Laws, ETS and heritage, that stem from overseas treaties basically destroy our democracy and our freedonm as a soverioegn country, including our right to the ownership of anything in Australia.
If Australia agrees to any treaty at Copenhagen it gives our soveriegnty to a single overseas government, basically a one world government (The UN)
I’m not against saving our resources for our decendants and being more environmentally responsible, however if K. Rudd signs any treaty relating to climate change in the next few months he will give the control of Australia to those who are not Australian and we will have lost any right to control our destiny and the future of our chidren as Australians.
We can as Autralians work towards a better future, however we cannot let K Rudd sign any treaty in relation to climate change. Please contact your Federal politician urgently and prevent the loss of our soveriegnty.